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  Ahhh, I need serious help.

  by apostate man in

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  where do i start.

  my wife is a "closet alcoholic".

  i found out a month ago that she was lying to me since the day we met, almost 7 years ago.

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  apostate man

  I forgot, I blame this damn religion for her problems. She was raised in it and when she started studying again is when I joined this board.
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  Ahhh, I need serious help.

  by apostate man in

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  where do i start.

  my wife is a "closet alcoholic".

  i found out a month ago that she was lying to me since the day we met, almost 7 years ago.

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  apostate man

  Where do I start. My wife is a "closet alcoholic". I found out a month ago that she was lying to me since the day we met, almost 7 years ago. She finally come out and said "I have a problem" and she was half blitzzed when she said this.

  I work nights(2nd shift) and she works days(1st shift). I have the kids during the day and she has them at night. She can easily hide this from me now. When I found out about her problem, her JW mother found out also. Her mother gives Jehovah all the glory for telling me about her problem. She says it has nothing to do with me, even though it was I who caught her in a big lie about going to work that day, just to find out she never did(long story).

  I made threats for divorce. Then I recanted those threats and told her I would give her a chance under a few guidlines. First, quit drinking, Second, quit lying to me, Third, get professional help, Fourth, hand over her paychecks to me, Fifth, talk to me anytime about anything. Well, in the first week she broke all those "rules". She drank, lied to me about it, said she didn't need help, cashed her first paycheck from work and never said a word to me. So, I revised once again my rules. First, don't drink but if you do, tell me. Second, get help, I will go with you if needed. If not, then divorce.

  As far as I know it lasted 5 days. I came home early from work one night and saw a cup on the end table. She did not know I saw the cup. I took my time and started kissing on her, at the same time I reached behind her and stuck my finger in the cup, got up and walked away. I smelled alcohol. She then came into the kitchen with me and I asked her to her face, "Babe, you know you can talk to me no matter what it is, even if you have been drinking, and I will try to understand and work with you. Have you been tempted to buy, tempted to drink, have you bought or have you drank any alcohol recently?" "NO" "Well then, what's that?" She walks away and ignores me. Nothing more said that night.

  I caught her a few more times since. I finally got her to go to a meeting with a shrink. Everything was great after that, I thought. I had her put on the calender how many days "dry" she had been. She very reluctantly did this. She got up to 14 then quit. She says she is fine now and no drinking. She says she does not need to keep track because she knows how long it has been. Funny, some nights I come home and smell alcohol the second I walk through the door. I asked her about this, now she burns candles almost every night.

  We are looking at buying a house this year. I am confused on what to do. TODAY, I found two empty out of a six pack hidden in the kids arts and crafts box. Before she would hide them in the kids' desk, behind it was a cubby hole.

  Its not so much the drinking that bothers me, but the lying that does. I quit drinking about 9 months ago because everytime I went to get a beer or a drink, even after we just bought a 6 or 12 pack, they would all be gone. She agreed to not have alcohol in the house after that but insisted to her family that I was "Controlling".

  I have nowhere to go. My closest family lives 2200 miles away. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Apostate Man
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  Hello all, I am new here

  by mbst in

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  i have been reading all the stuff i see on this place for a while.

  i am a jehovahs witness in good standing in my congregation.

  i just need to come on in here and ask for a little advice from anyone who might know what i am feeling.

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  apostate man

  Man what a hotshot. First post ever and he has a flaming envelope. Way to go, mbst, you belong!
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  1908 book- scanned -Divine Plan of the Ages

  by apostate man in

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  here are some interesting pages i scanned out of the .

  1908 book "the divine plan of ages".

  the file sizes as low as possible so it may take a .

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  apostate man

  Here are some interesting pages I scanned out of the
  1908 book "The Divine Plan of Ages". I tried to keep
  the file sizes as low as possible so it may take a
  little while for all the images to load if you have
  a slow connection. I am posting these because I
  thought they were interesting. Notice all the
  pyramids and crosses? The others are from the
  back of the book, trying to sell more books.
  Notice any differences between now and then? new light, right.

  Edited 'cause Apostate Man kant spel. It is Divine not Devine.
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  Im a freak

  by WildTurkey in

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  im a freak, are you?.

  http://www.outofservice.com/freak/

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  apostate man

  Need to be unique: 52%
  Need to NOT conform: 19%
  Willingness to express dissent: 32%
  Overall: 37%

  Ok, am I a freak or not? Uh, don't answer that.
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  Hello all, I am new here

  by mbst in

  1. jw
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  i have been reading all the stuff i see on this place for a while.

  i am a jehovahs witness in good standing in my congregation.

  i just need to come on in here and ask for a little advice from anyone who might know what i am feeling.

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  apostate man

  MBST,

  You have been conditioned to think that it is the truth. I am sooooooo glad you are here. Please look around. Just because your family is in it and you were raised in it does not mean it is the truth. I totally understand that you think that way. The org. is very convincing using many different tactics to keep ya going. Think!
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  Hello all, I am new here

  by mbst in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been reading all the stuff i see on this place for a while.

  i am a jehovahs witness in good standing in my congregation.

  i just need to come on in here and ask for a little advice from anyone who might know what i am feeling.

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  apostate man

  Yeah, lose the cult and maybe you'll have a shot.

  Sorry, don't mean to be so harsh, but thats what needs to be done.
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  "THE LIGHT JUST GOT BRIGHTER-----AGAIN"

  by new boy in

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  i like the society never apologize anymore!

  if i say something wrong or do something incorrect i merely say excuse me the light just got brighter.

  most people look confused when i say this, as do the people in the watchtower bible tract society, but i felt it works for them,------------ its good enough for me.. excuse me the light just got brighter yes i like the sound of that.. one member of the writing department said to another we really got this disfollewshipping thing wrong-------- first we say we cant talk to them.

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  The "new light" excuse is the lamest excuse I think I have ever heard. The GB can't say "we are wrong" they say "new light".

  Well, here is the skinny on that.
  Basically, they are blaming God for any previous mistakes that were done according to the old light. Lets say a child dies because she needed an organ transplant. 10 years later WT has new light saying that it is OK now to get a transplant. Who's fault that this girl died? It truly happened in error. The same little girl would be alive if it happened today. Right? So instead of saying they made a mistake, they put ALL THE BLAME ON GOD by saying that God did not give us the correct information. So, if that's true than it's Gods fault. God IS PERFECT and makes no mistakes.

  Now, what about all the JW's that have died before all the current "new light"? Hardly any of Russells beliefs are still in practice today. He was the "one" right? The loedocian(sp?) Messenger?
  He practiced all sorts of wierd things, like pyramids, crosses, etc. Surely the founder of the Borg would be ready for heaven and be one of the 144,000.

  Belbab, what is that scripture?
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  Curses

  by apostate man in

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  where did curse words come from?

  why are they so fudgin' bad?.

  why don't we make more of them sons of guns?

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  apostate man

  Sorry, My question started off serious...
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  If you were to start a religion....

  by KJV in

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  if you could start a religion what would it be?

  how would you go about setting it up?

  what agenda would you have?

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  apostate man

  I have seriously thought about starting my own religion.

  I will call it... the Apostalictictites(a-pos-ta-lick-tick-tites). Thats right, Apostalictictites.

  We could get drunk in the spirit, then you'd be an Apostalictictite-aholic.

  We could be know as Apostalictictite-Witnesses.

  All I require is that I get $10,000 every week. So the first few of you better be good Apostalictictites-Witnesses so you can get help in paying me my salary. Once I have 10,000 followers, then its only a buck a week per person. Russell had the right idea with the pyramids. But he was supposed to use the AM-WAY pyramid, not the Geeza pyramid. DUH!

  I am working on a bible right now and will be available for a one time fee of $49.95 and a $5.00 a week subscription for any new doctrines that may arise.

  Sound good?